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[jon_fisher]

anyone know how to recreate the lead bass sound, i was convinced that it was made with a pulse wave or something similar to a blown sound after a few attempts to create it with Sylenth and Massive to come and ask here.

many thanks to anyone that could help.


P.s not trying to copy cat anyone, i just like to play around with and learn how to make great sounds

[TheSqueezer]

The lead bass its actually a mix of 4 sounds if im not mistaken.
I can hear a sub bass down there, then the lead sound, then a short kind of ´´pop corn``sound and last a bass( this bass can very well be the lead sound but played some octaves down.

Sounds to me that the ´´secret``of the sounds is to detune the osc by semis. it gives a more chordy sound. Maybe one of the osc´s its detune by +4 or 5..cant quite tell you exactly.
I will try to reproduce this main sounds and then come here to give more info...unless Ramirez himself comes here and tell us :D:D

[jon_fisher]

that would be great many thanks

[tomflynn]

Most often i will tune my oscillators in terms of music theory - i.e i will put osc2 +4 semitones above oscillator 1 for a major 3rd or maybe add a 3rd oscillator 7 semi tones above the first for a perfect 5th etc etc.

If you know your music theory you will stand a far better chance of creating some coherent sounds. Then again just tuning and using your ears is equally as important.

[River]

Most often i will tune my oscillators in terms of music theory - i.e i will put osc2 +4 semitones above oscillator 1 for a major 3rd or maybe add a 3rd oscillator 7 semi tones above the first for a perfect 5th etc etc.

If you know your music theory you will stand a far better chance of creating some coherent sounds. Then again just tuning and using your ears is equally as important.


For music-theory drop outs like me, someone should write a guide on popular chords and how to use them in this way.

I know 2 chords, funnily enough the first 2 that are in the 'teach yourself keyboard' books
:D

[jon_fisher]

Most often i will tune my oscillators in terms of music theory - i.e i will put osc2 +4 semitones above oscillator 1 for a major 3rd or maybe add a 3rd oscillator 7 semi tones above the first for a perfect 5th etc etc.

If you know your music theory you will stand a far better chance of creating some coherent sounds. Then again just tuning and using your ears is equally as important.


Thanks, i know how to make i finger chords (don't know if thats the right name) using a synth, i'm not great with music theory but i know enough to get by.

thanks for the advise though

[jon_fisher]

For music-theory drop outs like me, someone should write a guide on popular chords and how to use them in this way.

I know 2 chords, funnily enough the first 2 that are in the 'teach yourself keyboard' books
:D

the best software about for people that don't know music theory is Ableton Live, you are able to set the scaler and chord plug-ins so that you can just jab away at keys on a keyboard and never hear the wrong notes played. if you hit the wrong note the plug-in corrects this for you by moving it up or down the the next relevant note

[River]

the best software about for people that don't know music theory is Ableton Live, you are able to set the scaler and chord plug-ins so that you can just jab away at keys on a keyboard and never hear the wrong notes played. if you hit the wrong note the plug-in corrects this for you by moving it up or down the the next relevant note



Sweet I didn't know that. I've always used live and every few weeks I still discover some neat trick:D

I'll check that out.

[dramirez]

I actually like to combine around 3 or 4 sounds together - one of the sounds is indeed a de-tuned oscillator +4 (major 3rd) with the 3rd oscillator 7 above the root. The next sound is s pure sub (EXS24 default sound is good for that) and the next sound is a popcorn short blippy sound to give the whole thing some attack.
Most of my lead bass, de-tuned oscillator sounds come from my Nord Lead 3 which i can't emulate in software.

[River]

I've never had the chance to play with a nordlead3, but I have the oldschool nord lead 1. Is there a big difference in the tone/sound or is it the same sound with a lot more features if you see what I mean?

I mostly end up using the lead for percussive sound, envelopes are really nice and snapy and the basic FM makes things zip a bit more. Never really got into doing more lead/bassy stuff with it.

[lugodaniel18]

who do you create chords?

[scottb]

Since were loosely on the subject of chords heres a tip for anyone that uses chords progressions with pads or stabs. I use a diagram called "The circle of 5ths". It basically groups closely related chords together.

http://guitaristguitarist.com/images/circle_of_fifths.jpg

Piano chord maker:

http://www.pianoworld.com/fun/vpc/piano_chords.htm

[jon_fisher]

thanks guys, how good is this though we get the man himself answering