Virus Ti Polar multi timbral help...

[tomflynn]

Hi,

I love my virus ti polar to death, and use it with logic 9, what i want to do is be able to have all 16 parts of the virus outputted onto 16 aux's so that i can add delays reverbs etc to each individual part.

The problem is the virus only seems to let you have 3x outputs, (by clicking the little + symbol in the virus plugin in the mixer)

The way i set it up (and correct me if i did it wrong) was -

new instrument - multi timbral - 16
selected the virus as the plug in - multi output 3 x stereo
Then in the mixer i clicked on the + sign at the bottom of the the virus channel strip to give me 'Virus 3-4' and 'Virus 5-6'

It won't give you anymore - like 'virus 5-6' virus 7-8' etc
It only allows you those 2 extra outputs.

Here are some screenshots to show you how i have it set up -

http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp240/tom4040/Screenshot2010-01-28at195117.png

http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp240/tom4040/Screenshot2010-01-28at195153.png


Is there a way where i can have all 16 parts from the virus going to 16 Aux channels?

At the moment what i ahve to do is have parts 1,2, and 3 from the virus going to outputs in logic, then if i use any of the other parts i have to bounce them down as audio, but i want to keep it all as midi if i can incase i want to go back and tweek something.

I hope that has made sense, i have posted a lot in the virus forums too but no joy as yet, but i was wondering if some creative routing was needed to be done to get to what i want to do.

Any help or advice would really be appreciated

[Kristoph]

Hi There

I don't have the ti handy at the moment, have never used more than 2 parts at once from it - I tend to just bounce what I need to audio...

If you go onto one of your aux returns, are the extra virus inputs available to choose there?

Silly question I know but are you on latest plug in and firmware versions?

[tomflynn]

I went onto a blank Aux and they are there, but still you can only choose 'Virus 3-4' and 'virus 5-6'

it's like you can only have 3 multi outputs.

All my firmware is upto date on it, did an update only last week.

To be fair, it's not like i'm going to use 16 parts in a track, but sometimes, because of how good the sounds are in the virus, i do find myself using 3,4,5, or 6 parts.

I think i'm just going to have to stick with how i got it, which isn't all bad, i'll bounce some stuff that i know i'm not going to automate much, or automate it and bounce it, and leave the other couple of parts as midi on the aux's.

[Kristoph]

commiting to audio can also sometimes work in your favour - I find I treat it more like a remix, you deal with the parts you've got, and that can take you off in a different direction...

If I bounce to audio though I leave the midi part in muted so I can rebounce if needs be...

as far as automation goes, you can do a lot with the enveloper and autofilter plugins on audio tracks, just bounce it as full on as you want it to get...

[tomflynn]

fantastic, you're so right about commiting to audio.

Like when i do remixes and you get the stems and you got no choice but to get creative with that audio file. Love it!

Thanks

[zebastian21]

The Virus Ti can only do 3 stereo out , even if you are running in multitimbral mode.
So this is a limitation of the Virus Ti itself for running at USb 1 speed.
I believe you can do 6 mono out though.

[tomflynn]

Very interesting about the mono outputs, I might go with a
couple mono and a couple stereo, I'll see when I have a play with it later.

I also read in the manual that you can go from it's audio outputs into your
audio interface, but this is just going to record
as audio so I might as well just keep it the way I have and bounce to audio.

Love it!!

[YannoxxX]

commiting to audio can also sometimes work in your favour - I find I treat it more like a remix, you deal with the parts you've got, and that can take you off in a different direction...

If I bounce to audio though I leave the midi part in muted so I can rebounce if needs be...

as far as automation goes, you can do a lot with the enveloper and autofilter plugins on audio tracks, just bounce it as full on as you want it to get...

Im the same as Kris, I usually bounce down and leave the midi muted. I like to do a few bounces in place with the midi through some plugins and either combine them (unless it's sounding too cluttered) or drop the volume on parts. I may have about 6 bounce variations then to choose from. I find this way also less time consuming as routing can become a bit of a hasstle for me ( i aways forget something!), unless you really want to automate in a specific way of course.
Is this an advised way to work Kris or would you suggest anything else?

[dramirez]

Hi Tom - the Virus TI only allows you 3+4 and 5+6 outputs (that's 6 outputs or 3 stereo pairs) Until recently you could only have 2 stereo pairs but a software issue to version 3 addressed this to 3 stereo pairs.
One question - how does your Virus work for you? the reason i ask is that i get all sorts of problems with mine to the point of not using it.

[tomflynn]

Thanks for the feedback about the outputs. It works really well to be honest, I've got the original ti polar not the ti polar2, updated to the latest update. I see os4 is about to be released soon, that might address
some bugs you might have, although from what
I've read it seems to be a lot about new fx and that.

I got a little problem with portamento randomly going to max when I use oscillator 3, and sometimes when I start logic it will only play one sound from the virus no matter what channel I'm on. That happens rarely
though. I just restart logic and it's fine again.

Gotta love hardware lol